‘That’s so gay’ prompts a lawsuit Student sent to principal’s office insists it was not a homophobic putdown
SANTA ROSA, Calif. - When a few classmates razzed Rebekah Rice about her Mormon upbringing with questions such as, "Do you have 10 moms?" she shot back: "That's so gay."
Those three words landed the high school freshman in the principal's office and resulted in a lawsuit that raises this question: When do playground insults used every day all over America cross the line into hate speech that must be stamped out?
After Rice got a warning and a notation in her file, her parents sued, claiming officials at Santa Rosa's Maria Carillo High violated their daughter's First Amendment rights when they disciplined her for uttering a phrase "which enjoys widespread currency in youth culture," according to court documents.
Testifying last week about the 2002 incident, Rice, now 18, said that when she uttered those words, she was not referring to anyone's sexual orientation. She said the phrase meant: "That's so stupid, that's so silly, that's so dumb."
But school officials say they took a strict stand against the putdown after two boys were paid to beat up a gay student the year before.
"The district has a statutory duty to protect gay students from harassment," the district's lawyers argued in a legal brief. "In furtherance of this goal, prohibition of the phrase 'That's so gay' ... was a reasonable regulation."
Superior Court Judge Elaine Rushing plans to issue a ruling in the non-jury trial after final written arguments are submitted in April. Her gag order prevents the two sides from discussing the case.
A confusing set of terms Derogatory terms for homosexuality have long been used as insults. But the landscape has become confusing in recent years as minority groups have tried to reclaim terms like "queer," "ghetto" and the n-word.
In recent years, gay rights advocates and educators have tried teaching students that it is hurtful to use the word "gay" as an all-purpose term for something disagreeable. At Berkeley High School, a gay student club passed out buttons with the words "That's so gay" crossed out to get their classmates to stop using them.
Rick Ayers, a retired teacher who helped compile and publish the "Berkeley High School Slang Dictionary," a compendium of trendy teen talk circa 2001, said educating students about offensive language is preferable to policing their speech.
"I wouldn't be surprised if this girl didn't even know the origin of that term," he said. "The kids who get caught saying it will claim it's been decontextualized, but others will say, `No, you know what that means.' It's quite talked about."
Rice's parents, Elden and Katherine Rice, also claim the public high school employed a double-standard because, they say, administrators never sought to shield Rebekah from teasing based on Mormon stereotypes.
Daughter singled out, parents say In addition, the Rices say their daughter was singled out because of the family's conservative views on sexuality. They are seeking unspecified damages and want the disciplinary notation expunged from Rebekah's school record.
Eliza Byard, deputy executive director of the New York-based Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, said nearly nine out of 10 gay students her organization surveyed in 2005 reported hearing "That's so gay" or "You're so gay" frequently.
"It bothers them a lot," Byard said. "As odd or funny as the phrase sounds, imagine what it feels like to be in a setting where you consistently hear it used to describe something undesirable or stupid, and it also refers to you."
She said it is OK to discipline students for using the phrase after efforts have been made to educate them.
"The job of a school is to deal proactively and consistently with all forms of bullying, name-calling and harassment," she said.
Jordan Lorence, an attorney with the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal organization, agreed "That's so gay" carries a negative meaning and said he would not want his children to say it. But he said formal discipline is not the answer.
"Reasonable people should say, `Let's put a stop to this kind of search-and-destroy mission by school officials for everything that is politically incorrect,'" he said.
Why is it that people are always getting into trouble for standing up for themselves? I'm sorry, but I understand that they wanted to take action about how that phrase can be offensive, but it shouldn't right for someone to be harrassed over their religious beliefs either.. I mean this country was founded by people who believed that all men (and women) should be allowed to worship their own beliefs (as long as they don't infringe on anyone else's beliefs), with out prejudice (including harrassment).. And now in this same country our rights can be just tossed out the window for the simple fact that we tried to defend ourselves.. You know we are just moving closer and closer to the day when everyone will have religious freedom, except people of Christian Faith..
"That's so gay" is just another way of saying "That's not right." That does NOT mean that every time it is being said that someone is also say "being gay isn't right." Gay also means happy. I'm sorry but I'm not politically correct in an stretch of the imagination. Right now in this country we are over dosed on it. This proves it. Not everyone is going to like everyone or agree on things. That is what we called being an individual. The way I see it, I support the gay community. Some of my best friends in my life been gay men. Not sure why that is but it has pretty much always been the case. I also use the term "That is so gay." A Lot. Never been a problem before. Like I said stuff like this is over kill.
I have not read the article just the title and my teens spell "gay" as "ghay". It's not meant as a sexual orientation thing.
But I guess I'll have to read the article to know what this is all about....
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I guess I wouldn't see a problem at all with the whole issue that article is bringing up if the other student(s) had been held respondible for their actions as well.. I also didn't post it just cuz the child was LDS...
Yeah, why weren't they snatched up too. In high school I had a History teacher that was protest in some way. He would ALWAYS bash Catholics. He would point out how in history it proves the Catholics always had it wrong and he would use the word "Protestants" had it right. I thought it was annoying but I never did anything about it because it didn't really get under my skin. As I read this article I think about it now and can not help but feel the ONLY reason she got in trouble for this commonly used phase would be because of her religious beliefs. I don’t the faculty cared about the term they are just taking a stab at her.
Don't ya just love the double standards we have in this country? It's perfectly "fine" to insult some one because of thier religion but how dare you make a remark using a word that could (although in this case didn't) refer to someone's sexual orientation and all hell brakes loose. I say that any personal insults, rather they be on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation should be punished (or at least the same standards held for all)!
Jolie, do you have a link to that article? I'd like to take it in to share with my Gender Issues class.
I did however find another article about the same case:
quote:
Mormon family sues Santa Rosa schools over pro-gay policies
A Santa Rosa couple, members of the ultra conservative Eagle Forum, is suing the Santa Rosa schools claiming their daughter suffered discrimination and harassment when she was a student at one of the district's high schools.
The couple, Kathy and Elden Rice, said that their daughter, Rebekah Rice, faced teasing and threats from students and unfair disciplinary action by a teacher because of her religion and her parent's opposition to school policies. The family belongs to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Santa Rosa.
The incidents cited in the lawsuit include a written referral for saying "that's so gay," an alleged threat by an openly lesbian student, a classroom presentation that included the R-rated film, Saving Private Ryan, and a mistaken search of Rebekah's backpack.
The non-jury trial began last week in Sonoma County Judge Elaine Rushing's courtroom. In the lawsuit, which names teacher Claudine Gans-Rugebregt, Principal Mark Klick, and Assistant Principal Frances Kass Mason, the Rices said school officials retaliated against Rebekah Rice because of her parents' involvement in protests against a Day of Dialogue held at Maria Carrillo High School in 2000.
On Tuesday, February 19, Orlean Koehle, president of the California Eagle Forum and a Santa Rosa substitute teacher, said "Elden [Rice] took the lead and essentially led the charge" when a small group of religiously conservative parents protested the event, especially the inclusion of a presentation on homosexuality.
Filed in December 2003, the lawsuit seeks an order for the school district to comply with education code regulations it allegedly violated, notification to every parent that the school failed to inform them about the showing of the R-rated film, unspecified monetary damages, and removal of the referral from Rebekah Rice's school record.
Koehle, who had to be admonished several times for speaking out of turn, admitted that the Rices's lawsuit was "partially to counter the pro-gay agenda in public schools."
According to testimony last week by Rebekah Rice, in 2002 her humanities teacher, Gans-Rugebregt, wrote a referral after the teenager said "that's so gay" in response to students teasing her about her Mormon religion.
According to Maria Carrillo Assistant Principal Ron Calloway, a referral goes into a separate discipline file, rather than a student's permanent file, so it would not be part of student's records when he or she applies to colleges.
The Rices maintain students do not typically receive a referral for a first offense and their daughter was being singled out because of her parents' activism.
On Tuesday, Monique Cetard, a freshman at Maria Carrillo, said she heard another student exclaim "that's so gay" in Gans-Rugebregt's classroom and the teacher only admonished the student with a verbal warning.
"She [Gans-Rugebregt] said it's sexual harassment and he [the student] would get a referral next time," Cetard testified.
Klick, the principal, testified that he investigated the disciplinary action at Elden Rice's request and he found that it was appropriate. According to school officials, teachers have the option to make a referral or issue a warning.
Then, in 2003, assistant principal Mason searched Rebekah's backpack after a student reported that another student with the same first name had a knife and cigarettes in her backpack. In court last week, Mason admitted that the report mentioned a student with a different last name. The Rices, in their lawsuit, said this was another example of their daughter being targeted for her family's beliefs.
Later in the year, Elden Rice called the school again, this time saying an openly lesbian student had threatened his daughter while speaking at an anti-hate crime rally. Students had organized this unofficial walkout, march, and rally in response to anti-racist graffiti that had recently been scrawled on the school walls.
According to testimony Tuesday by school principal Klick, he interviewed one of three students who had told Rebekah Rice about the alleged threat. Rice had been present at the rally but did not, apparently, hear the threat herself.
The student Klick interviewed, a part-time employee of Elden Rice at his dental clinic, told him the rally speaker said she had a black belt in karate and "the girl in my math class who said, 'that's so gay,' I could kick your ass."
But, after interviewing the rally speaker, an honor student with no history of causing trouble in school, Klick said he concluded that there was no real threat of physical danger to Rebekah Rice. Because the Rices were so concerned, however, he said he elected to "shadow" Rebekah, a process by which school administrators and security officers kept continual watch over the girl to protect her.
"Nicky [the lesbian student] said she didn't remember her exact words, or making a threat to any student on campus," Klick testified.
The trial is expected to continue through next week. According to Mark Peters, the attorney for the Santa Rosa High School District, Rushing has asked the attorneys to provide final comments in writing after the testimony and she will render her decision after she considers those statements.
Meanwhile, Elden Rice is scheduled to speak about his lawsuit March 31 at the annual education conference of the Eagle Forum of California. The organization's Web site describes Rice as "a brave dentist who has a lawsuit with his school district because of their promoting the homosexual agenda."
I hope I don't offend anyone, and I certainly have no problem with religion or people of a religious background, and I must stress I am very spiritual myself and would never be prejudiced against Christians or people of other faiths.
However, I feel that using expressions such as "that's gay" to denote something derogatory is extremely offensive, and while the girl in question probably didn't mean to do so, I must applaud the anti-homophobic stance taken by schools and workplaces to stop discrimination just because of the way someone is born. I have a lot of gay friends too, and I don't like the way people are treated in this world because they are "different".
Of course, that doesn't give anyone the right to discriminate against people of religious backgrounds either.
I wish more people could follow singer-songwriter Beth Nielsen Chapman's philosophy...
****"To me, God's love shines through all of humanity. Just as beams of light sparkle and bounce in every direction when the sun shines through a diamond, every voice of praise in every spiritual language comes from and goes back to the same source of light. I believe faith to be something beyond the boundaries of any one religion..."****
I also read these very inspirational words by Julie Newmar (who played Catwoman in Batman) and who is now a New Age spiritual guru:
****Some of the greatest mistakes in life are made in the teenage years including irreversible changes to the body. They come from fear, fear of being not enough, or too much. Too much body weight, too big a nose, not enough height, etc. These fears create damage to the face or body which can be carried for the rest of one's life. Think again. Better yet, think beyond the inevitable comparisons children make that so often do harm to themselves and others. They don't mean to.
When you were in the first grade, you learned about opposites: short-tall, fat-skinny, etc. These words of comparison later hurt when describing another, e.g. Sherry is short. Josh is fat. They were not meant to hurt but to differentiate. How brilliant in nature that we are not all exactly the same. How exceedingly boring that would be. Think of your ability to recognize your friend's voice on the phone. Think of a mother penguin's ability to distinguish her baby penguin's squawk, squawk among the thousands of baby penguins as she returns from searching for food to keep her baby alive. You are just different enough to fit perfectly on this planet. YOU ARE ENOUGH.
These three words must become your mantra for the rest of your life until you have all the information you need to make those important decisions. Knowledge is power and smart people make fewer mistakes.
A friend of mine has a very cute nose but it does not fit her face. Her face is stronger and bolder than this new nose. Had she waited past the age of nineteen when her nose was fixed, and had she looked for a better doctor or had visually assimilated all aspects of her face and also armed herself with knowledge that she was not her nose, the fear she had as a teenager would not have become a permanent mark to distort her image. Big lesson: I AM ENOUGH.
Repeat these three words over and over to yourself when anyone or any situation has put you in a state of fear. Don't destroy anything about yourself or another while you are feeling insecure. Say to yourself, "I am not afraid." Most fear situations are pure nonsense anyway. Move your mental attention to safer ground. Do not hang there. Four big no-no's:
1. Do NOT commit murder 2. Do NOT commit suicide 3. Do NOT commit incest 4. Do NOT be afraid****
Just a little inspiration for everyone and I hope I haven't offended any of my dearest friends here as I love you guys, but I am passionate about EQUAL RIGHTS FOR EVERYONE.
This whole topic is very interesting to me because we have been discussing many of these very same issues in my Gender issues class. And, it amazes me how people can be so hurtful and hateful. I mean I have my own beliefs about this stuff (some of which are based of my religious beliefs) and just because I don't condone a certain behavior I'm sure as heck not going to condem a person for it or discriminate against them. Sadly, it seems as though in this day an age I'm in the minority as more and more people are becoming less tollerat of those who are different in any sense of the word and I think the case in this artice is proof (in two ways) of that.
Well I think its really not right that in the second article it is mentioned that another student had made the same comment in that class and was only given a warning for it... It would seem that the parents have a right to believe that their child was singled out for this...
I haven't read the second article yet, but it would seem to be the case. And if so there is a huge double standard there and woudl almost make me question if the school wasn't "practicing" some form of religious discrimination themselves.
First of all, courts have decided over and over again that kids in public school have extremely curtailed freedom of speech. This reaction seems a bit excessive, though. She was being harassed. Didn't they punish the kid who was harassing her?
Personally, I don't think we have the right not to be insulted. We have the right to live in relative peace and not be interfered with, but I don't think that carries so far that the government needs to come in and decide what words and phrases we're allowed to say. And we should have to live with the consequences of what we choose to say, and not have the government stepping in to defend us (physical threats aside).
I choose to be politically correct most of the time because it's easier. I want people to pay attention to my ideas, not my word choice. But political correctness should not be enforced by the authorities!
In related news, New York just banned the N word. Because, you know, banning culutural stuff has such a great history of effectiveness.
Originally posted by iris: But political correctness should not be enforced by the authorities!
I agree, Iris, at least to some degree. But, I think that hate speech is something that is a bit of a different matter, and when used (at least in the extreme cases) should be dealt with by the authorities. Although the ACLU would disagree with me (big shocker). I wish I could find the article that I read a year ago that said that the ACLU actually doesn't see a need to "ban" or "regulate" hate speech. I actaully was surprised by that.
Originally posted by iris: But political correctness should not be enforced by the authorities!
I agree, Iris, at least to some degree. But, I think that hate speech is something that is a bit of a different matter, and when used (at least in the extreme cases) should be dealt with by the authorities. Although the ACLU would disagree with me (big shocker). I wish I could find the article that I read a year ago that said that the ACLU actually doesn't see a need to "ban" or "regulate" hate speech. I actaully was surprised by that.
It doesn't surprise me that the ACLU would favor free speech... since their mission is supposed to be to defend civil liberties.
I think there are already laws against slander and inciting violence which should technically cover hate speech as a crime, depending on the circumstances. Offhand comments from schoolgirls should not qualify. Things being the way they are though, real hate speech and hate crimes are not prosecuted as well as they should be. I guess I'm just against involvement of law enforcement unless absolutely necessary.
I am a member of the ACLU, btw. I'm sure you are SHOCKED, eh? lol
I'd say "that's so gay" to refer to this law suit, but I don't want to offend anyone so I will simple, and completely, agree with me favorite girl in the whole world...Iris.
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